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The secret hiring of Marissa Mayer: How Yahoo kept it all under wraps. (businessweek.com)
60 points by Brajeshwar on July 19, 2012 | hide | past | favorite | 18 comments


I was surprised she didn't have some kind of non-compete with Google, but they are illegal/unenforceable in CA, right? (I'm on the East Coast so pardon my lack of knowledge).


What if Sergei and Larry WANT her to go to Yahoo. Not to "compete" but to build it out in some other way, to build it as a service that google can then acquire.

She can go there to experiment on ideas that maybe even google had internally but couldn't risk to do with google viewers...


My thoughts ran to whether Google might want (in part) to ensure that credible competition exists/continues. There's been a lot of "monopoly" language and perhaps imminent regulation flying about.


Any way you cut this, Google seems ready to benefit from this coup.


hmm....wait a minute...being passed over for SVP...going to yahoo....SHE'S THEIR NEW LUCA BRASI!!!


There has been talk about Google stealing Yahoo back away from Microsoft on an ad deal, so that would also be another reason. It could be worth hundreds of millions per year to land that deal with Yahoo. The legal hurdles are huge though.


Yahoo would probably make a lot more $ too because AdCenter is a joke.


It wouldn't surprise me at all if Sergei and Larry wanted her gone, period. She has had a lackluster career at Google, and they may have gladly watched her move out of the way.



Non-competes are totally unenforceable in CA as a condition of employment. If you sell your startup to an acquirer, the contract can include a non-compete subject to fairly strict conditions of reasonableness.


This tagline is misleading. A single paragraph discusses "How Yahoo kept it all under wraps" while the rest of the article is an also-ran discussion about Mayer's potential success/failure at Yahoo.


http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-apple-go...

Until those companies apologize to every existing employee, I have absolutely no loyalty to them.

If they can't even let the free market decide the value of the programmer why should I have any fucking allegiance to any of them?

I can only hope she and others get the competitive salary they deserve.


I don't think Marissa Mayer is worried that she might not be, or have been, fairly compensated.


Are you one of the 5 engineers?


In an actual free market, collusion between companies is legal and occurs regularly.

You're talking about a regulated market in which labor is protected by government intervention from collusion between companies.


That's not the way "free market" is understood by the vast majority of people. In your version of a free market murder is also a common business strategy. Google could just kill any engineer who dares to work for a competitor.

No one wants to live in a world like that. So when we say "free market", we mean a market with an agreed-upon set of rules that everyone is aware of and that are generally followed and enforced.


The problem is that a lot of people spouting "free market" demagoguery don't practice your definition. Rather, it is indeed "anything and everything they can get away with".

There is also strong correlation with people intent on telling other people how to live their lives. (Even and all the more so when this ends up through revelations and evidence being a "do as I say, not as I do" type of message.)

One of my problems with so-called "free marketeers", is that so many of them are outright hypocrites.

Sigh. Trending too far towards the political, here on HN. But people, including many technical people, need to look at, analyze, and take apart free market arguments and statements, to see what parts are true and/or work and what parts don't.

I myself favor broadly but fairly strictly defining spaces and rules within which private enterprise can compete relatively freely. But, private enterprise does not become the final arbiter of same.

That's what studies I recall seem to have indicated. Regulation works well in broad strokes. It falls down in micro-management. But you paint those strokes strongly, and you don't let the competitors step an inch over that line without consequences. (Even if, sometimes, the consequences are a re-evaluation and adjustment of the regulation. Sometimes, the times really do change.)

If you let private enterprise loose entirely, you end up enabling the eventual establishment of quasi-states -- perhaps to eventually become de facto or real states. Autocratic states, by the nature of their structure.

I'm not sure we really want, or are willing to concede to the inevitability of, a Gibsonian near-future. Yet.

As for the regulation. It should all be open. With the world an ever shrinking place, private actions simply are no longer isolated. When company X pollutes watershed Y, it's no longer just a matter of their bottom line. Even in resulting settlements, court procedures, and arbitration, non-disclosure should not be a legal option for them. Shine the light of day on these bad actors. And shine it on government failures that enabled them.

A bit idealistic. But, IMO, better than "all hail free markets".

P.S. If you think markets are free, try following jobs across national boundaries. There is no worldwide "free market" in labor. (Something a bit less obvious to the highly skilled than to the rest of the world labor force.)


In an actual free market, collusion between companies is legal and occurs regularly.

That statement needs to be corrected as:

In an actual free-for-all market, collusion between companies is legal and occurs regularly.

And, ditto for bribery.




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