I think the interaction between both communities is exactly the reason of the current state.

Not sure if you're serious and talking about tree-shaking - or joking and talking about left-pad.

No, they are the worst perpetrators re dependency hell.

The Javascript folks are at least aware and self critical of this. In the Rust community it's sold as a great idea.

Yes, unironically they’re now.

Node has improved greatly in last two years. They always had native JSON support. Now have native test runner, watch, fetch, working on permission system à la deno, added WebSockets and working on native SQLite driver. All of this makes it a really attractive platform for prototyping which scales from hello world without any dependencies to production.

Good luck experimenting with Rust without pulling half the internet with it.

E: and they’re working on native TS support

> without any dependencies

Nah, you still have those dependencies, they're just integrated in your interpreter. That has advantages (you're now only trusting a single source) and disadvantages (you always get all the goodies and the associated risks with that, even if you don't need them).

You’re being pedantic for the sake of being pedantic.