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i recommend this article if you're interested: https://www.ableton.com/en/blog/james-holden-human-timing/

tldr: there's been some research into it – turns out that if you have a few parts (instruments), the randomness you add to each of them needs to be correlated:

> "The first [example] has had completely random timing errors inserted [...] with no link between the errors in different parts. The result sounds unmistakably unmusical and inhuman."

someone built a "humanizing" plugin for Ableton Live based on that research.

here's some quotes i liked:

> "[...] the timing of each individual note is dependent on every single note that both players had already played – a minor timing hiccup near the start of a piece will continue to affect every single note after it, up to the last notes. And when you play a duet every note your partner plays affects your playing, and every note you play affects your partner [...]"

> "[...] if everything is recorded together in the same take then quite large variations in timing are no problem – they don't sound like errors, just the natural movement of the music. But if the parts are multi-tracked, or sequenced parts are mixed with human parts, then the timing errors are glaringly obvious, they sound wrong because they are unnatural, and our capability to identify the uncanny marks them out as unpleasant and undesirable [...]"



About the correlation between musicians. I don't know if you ever played drums in a band. But there's such a weird coupling between everybody when the rhythm is solid. A few ms off from the drums and everybody in the room will have a hiccup.


Not related to the content of your comment itself, but congratulations on owning the unique Hacker News comment whose numerical ID corresponds to the YYYYMMDD date of its posting:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20190615

This is most likely the first and last time this particular fixed point will occur.


I feel so blessed. And proud.. that says something about my ego.


Congratulations! I feel privileged to have witnessed this moment.


Still trying to recreate an os from scratch in a basement ?


For sure. https://gitlab.com/kragen/bubbleos is the current set of OS fragments, but I haven't done anything on it in a while; for the last few months I've been focused on importing my unpublished notes into a book called "Dercuano." You can snarf a copy of the current release at http://canonical.org/~kragen/dercuano-20190610.tar.gz if you like.


Amazing

How did you notice this? Were you expecting that to happen soon or something?


I noticed that the comment IDs were past 20190000 and after that it was easy to find the comment whose ID matched the date.


i think i know the feeling! though i played guitar, not drums


Isn’t this similar to what a groove map in Ableton does?




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