WHY? I've bought most of my clothing from Bonobos for the last few years, I guess I'll look elsewhere now.
> Partnering with Walmart — the biggest bricks-and-mortar retailer around — might have seemed extremely off brand for Bonobos.
YES it is. And "I think Walmart is misunderstood in some ways." isn't an explanation. Bonobos and Walmart are totally different in my mind, I can't imagine I'm the only Bonobos customer disappointed by this change.
Is it though? I've found Bonobos to be of mediocre quality and boring design which doesn't call for the price point they are at. For $125 you can start getting some really nice shirts from other brands (Saturdays NYC, La Paz, etc).
I think they probably can lean on Walmart to lower their production costs and possibly cut their prices to offer Walmart customers an option that is above their typical retail choices.
Shit, for $120 you can get a near perfect fit tailored shirt shipped from HK (if you're ok with massively high latency and waiting for someone to come by and take a dozen measurements).
For $20 bucks you can get an nice dress shirt from Costco.
Does anyone really think anyone else gives a shit how much someone spent on a shirt? or what their pants cost. Zuck shows up in sweat pants and t-shirt to work. He probably has never spent $100 on a dress shirt in his life.
"It's Brunello Cucinelli. I know this because I worked in the store he shopped in. They are $400 t-shirts and those sweatshirts are Brunello as well and are around $3,000."
"Mark Zuckerberg wears custom made Brunello Cucinelli tees in marl grey. I believe they run long for him, thus needing a hem. He chooses to order in bulk for an estimated cost per unit that varies from $300-$400. Price reflects on an order of plain custom tees vs. one of grey tees that feature the original 3 emblem Facebook insignia on the upper left chest."
I wouldn't use him as an example because he dresses the same way every day to project an image.
But I agree. You can find clothes that fit well for very cheap. If you're associating with people that care how much you spent on your clothes, you should maybe consider associating with other people.
some body styles can buy cheap clothes that fit well.
If you're even moderately muscular and don't want to look like you're wearing a tent, it's very difficult to buy clothes that fit well. For example, my waist is a 35-36 but I mostly have to buy 38 or 40 in waist jeans to fit my butt because of squats and deads. I mostly buy from Tommy Bahama for that reason.
For the most part no, no one cares how much another person spent on a shirt. Although I find dressing well and looking good is worth the effort for me. Some of my favorite shirts I bought vintage for $20 or less, while others I spent over $200 for (although those items are rare purchases for me).
The price doesn't matter as much as the styling, not even close.
I doubt anyone cares how much they cost. Some will care how they look. When you get all your clothes from Costco, you probably look like someone who dresses at Costco. Whether that matters at all is up to the individual.
Because the time cost for finding just the right style and the right fit and the right brand that combines both those two things for you that are in the right size costs about the same as just paying full retail, depending on how much you enjoy the shopping process.
I tend to know exactly what I want, and don't have the inclination to scour the discount racks in case they have exactly what I want. And if it's not exactly what I want, I usually end up not wearing it,, which is an even bigger waste.
Afaik, they're talked about a lot in terms of their actual-slim and really-slim (aka tailored) stuff vs the poorly cut or unavailable true-slim at other retailers.
I just stumbled onto their athletic fit and it's the best fitting pant I have ever owned. It's worth spending the extra money to have a pair that fit well.
You're right. I only buy during sales, and mostly I buy because I hate shopping and the clothes fit me (I have long limbs). The quality of their pants is not great, they do get worn out quickly.
I find Gant to be of much higher quality, especially the cuts that are made in India (I'm actually wearing one right now). For the price I don't think Bonobos even comes close.
> But for now, there are no plans to offer Bonobos’s $98 chinos or $128 dress shirts in Walmart’s 5,000-plus stores. Instead, Walmart is hoping to learn from Bonobos. Its co-founder and chief executive, Andy Dunn, will oversee Walmart’s digital brands, which also include the independent women’s brand ModCloth.
I don't think that pricing is very good. $100 for pants is not enough for "better" quality/craftsmanship like designer labels have, but it's not low enough to be an easy purchase.
Honestly, the $100 pants (from a few brands) I've worn don't feel any better (or last much longer) than $40-50 Uniqlo pants. I've always been curious about this market niche (better than fast fashion, but not designer quality).
For many clothing brands the sticker price isn't what many people pay. Sales occur every few weeks knocking 20 to 40 percent off of items. I think their shorts and pants are exceptional and worth the $50 to $70 you can get them for during sales.
> Sales occur every few weeks knocking 20 to 40 percent off of items. I think their shorts and pants are exceptional and worth the $50 to $70 you can get them for during sales.
Is selling most of your stock during sales profitable? If so, interesting business practice and I'm curious if it's more common than I thought (J. Crew could be doing the same).
Yes, because even during sales the margins are still high. They're just less high.
In fact, as JC Penney proved to consumers, you often make more money setting prices at $50 and having frequent sales at $30 than you do setting the price at $30 but having no sales.
Well somebody thinks that pricing is good enough because Bonobos just got bought.
This comment is more to point out to the OP that while Walmart might have bought Bonobos, it doesn't mean he's gonna go shopping at the actual Walmart building.
> Partnering with Walmart — the biggest bricks-and-mortar retailer around — might have seemed extremely off brand for Bonobos.
YES it is. And "I think Walmart is misunderstood in some ways." isn't an explanation. Bonobos and Walmart are totally different in my mind, I can't imagine I'm the only Bonobos customer disappointed by this change.